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Vaccines are Safe
By: Eric, on 11 Jan 2016

The scientific evidence establishes with a high degree of confidence that vaccines cause serious health problems in less than 1% of recipients, and also don't cause less serious problems in a high fraction of the population.

In serious health problems, we include SIDS (death), ASD, auto-immune disorders, cancer, life threatening allergies, narcolepsy, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. To claim that vaccines are safe it seems a minimal prerequisite should be that it be established they don't do such serious harm to a significant fraction of the population. Perhaps other conditions should be added, and it would be nice to insist on less than 1/1000 individuals suffering such catastrophic loss, adding together the numbers that acquire any of these serious conditions from vaccines.

In less serious health problems we may include such things as lesser IQ loss. We stipulate that if vaccines are causing an average IQ loss in the population of say 5 points, that would be quite serious to the future of the world. Maybe an average loss of 1 IQ point would be acceptable, but it would be nice to rule out more substantial average loss. We also include such things as Epilepsy, Migraines, Skoliosis, Diabetes Miletus, Asthma/Chronic Bronchitis, Hypothyroid, or a weakening of the immune system leading to substantially greater susceptibility to illnesses such as flu or respiratory illnesses. For example, it would be nice to rule out the possibility that receiving the vaccine series causes a child to have on average twice as many respiratory illnesses as an unvaccinated child would. If parents believed vaccines are causing one or more of these various problems in more than 5% of the population, many parents may reasonably reconsider their decision on whether or when to vaccinate their children, or which vaccines to give them, and physicians and pharmaceutical companies may redouble efforts to make safer vaccines. So we ask whether it may be established as well that this isn't happening.

And also, to establish safety, it would be reasonable to ask that it is established that less debilitating but annoying problems be ruled out as being caused in a high fraction of the population, such as perhaps 25%. This may include Hayfever, Otitus Media, Herpes, Neurodermatitis, Sinusitis, Allergies, Hyperactivity. To say that vaccines are safe, it would be reasonable to demand that the evidence taken as a whole gives a reasonable observer perhaps at least a 90% confidence that none of these three problems is happening.

In addition it might be noted that vaccines exist as a reaction to various catastrophic illness and that considerations of their safety should be weighed alongside the risk associated with these ilnesses and the extent to which vaccines are successful in protecting against this risk. Another diagram has been added discussing this subject http://truthsift-env.qh5iy45he4.us-east-2.elasticbeanstalk.com/search_view?topic=The-Evidence-Is-Weak-That-Vaccines-Have-Saved-More-Lives-than-They-Have-Cost--&id=520 .

 


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If not Thimerisol, or Aluminum, or Too Many Too Soon, or Too Many Acute Effects, Then Safe

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I stand corrected

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This is false

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This is inconsistent with the Alum theory

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There's evidence attached right there

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More than 1000 parents of autistic children have taken the time to post videos claiming the vaccine visibly caused the autism

Last Updated: 24 Mar 2016
The reliability of the Claim "Animal Studies Virtually All Report brain or immune damage" is Independent of Whether Animal Studies Reliable

Last Updated: 16 Mar 2016
Vaccines are not associated with autism: An evidence-based meta-analysis of case-control and cohort studies

Last Updated: 28 Feb 2016
The Thimerisol isn't causing autism

Last Updated: 28 Feb 2016
Human Fetal DNA Reported Found Contaminating Vaccines, and Correlated to Autism

Last Updated: 25 Jan 2016
10 times as much porcine circovirus was found in Rotarix Vaccine as the Active Ingredient Rotavirus

Last Updated: 25 Jan 2016
As Known at the Time, Polio vaccines were contaminated with SV-40 at least until 1978, and probably into the '90's.

Last Updated: 25 Jan 2016
The animal literature is ignored by the safety surveys, and it confirms the epidemiology showing damage and danger

Last Updated: 15 Jan 2016
A positive association found between autism prevalence and childhood vaccination uptake across the U.S. population.

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Infant mortality rates regressed against number of vaccine doses routinely given: is there a biochemical or synergistic toxicity?

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Autism Occurrence by MMR Vaccine Status Among US Children With Older Siblings With and Without Autism

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
The study has an obvious confounder. The most straightforward interpretation of the results indicates it shows MMR does cause autism.

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Monkey study reported significantly slower reaction times on learning test for 2008 series group than controls

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Examination of the safety of pediatric vaccine schedules in a non-human primate model: assessments of neurodevelopment, learning, and social

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Study Beset with Severe Methodological Difficulties

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Animal Studies report results tending to indicate the aluminum is toxic in the quantities administered

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Administration of aluminum to neonatal mice in vaccine-relevant amounts is associated with adverse long term neurological outcomes

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Glia activation induced by peripheral administration of aluminum oxide nanoparticles in rat brains

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Animal studies show slow bioaccumulation in organs such as the brain

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Slow CCL2-dependent translocation of biopersistent particles from muscle to brain

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Injected aluminum not an analog to vaccine amount

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Animal Studies report brain or immune system damage

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Animal Studies report repeated vaccination leads to auto-immune disease.

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Animal Studies indicate vaccination during critical periods of brain development damages brain development

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Peripheral immune challenge with viral mimic during early postnatal period robustly enhances anxiety-like behavior in young adult rats.

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Self-Organized Criticality Theory of Autoimmunity

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
All the epidemiology comparing those who got more vaccines to less indicates vaccines cause damage

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Vaccine model of antiphospholipid syndrome induced by tetanus vaccine

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Postnatal Inflammation Increases Seizure Susceptibility in Adult Rats

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Peer Reviewed Studies comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated indicate vaccines cause damage

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
The vaccines are bypassing five evolved filters to inject aluminum in large quantities

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
A proof the Philippines Study shows no harm from vaccines would go here???

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
The Pertinent Evidence Indicates that Aluminum in the Vaccine Series is Toxic in the quantities administered

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Bishop et al NEJM 1997 in a placebo controlled test reported 40mcg/kg caused a loss of 1 mental development point.

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
The Vaccinated in the Philippines (Bloom et al) study begin about 2.5 standard deviations ahead and finish about half ahead.

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Aluminum Neurotoxicity in Preterm Infants Receiving Intravenous-Feeding Solutions

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Aluminum exposure from parenteral nutrition in preterm infants: bone health at 15-year follow-up.

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Infants receive more aluminum from diet than from vaccines

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
99.75% of dietary aluminum is pooped out. About 250 times more aluminum reaches systemic flow from vaccines in infants..

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Oral polio vaccination and low case fatality at the paediatric ward in Bissau, Guinea-Bissau.

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Infants' exposure to aluminum from vaccines and breast milk during the first 6 months.

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
These Studies are Largely Corrupted by the Fact that Almost All Papers Compare Highly Vaccinated Individuals

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Benefits of routine immunizations on childhood survival in Tari, Southern Highlands Province, Papua New Guinea

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
On Time Vaccine is a poor proxy for more or earlier vaccines.

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
The lead author of this study was also the lead author on the study cited by William Thompson as fraudulent

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Increasing Exposure to Antibody-Stimulating Proteins and Polysaccharides in Vaccines Is Not Associated with Risk of Autism

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
This study basically compares children who got DTP and dozens of vaccines to DTaP and dozens of Vaccines

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
The Risk of Autism is Not Increased by "Too Many Vaccines Too Soon"

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Mitkus et al showed its safe

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Routine vaccinations and child survival: follow up study in Guinea-Bissau, West Africa

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Mitkus et al reports no results pertinent to parenteral aluminum in neonates

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
The effect of vaccination on children's physical and cognitive development in the Philippines

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
American Academy of Pediatrics, April 2013, Vaccine Safety: Examine the Evidence

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
On-time Vaccine Receipt in the First Year Does Not Adversely Affect Neuropsychological Outcomes

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Aluminum Load is Safe

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
The Thimerisol isn't causing problems

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
There aren't too many acute immediate effects

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Studies looking at long term effects have found no damage

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Multiple Esteemed Organizations Have Surveyed the Literature and Found No Problems

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016
Multiple Clinical Studies Have Found No Problems

Last Updated: 11 Jan 2016