Since they are all mostly espousing the view because everybody else is, the fact that a view is held by a majority provides no actual evidence it is correct. Its circular reasoning. You might think the crowd would be biased to correct views, but on the other hand they are also subject to propaganda by interested parties, and to positive reinforcement and conflict of interest. A crowd of experts is particularly likely to face diverging calls for rationality and the higher profit alternative decision, and who will argue a priori that rationality is more likely to win out in a complex system like a crowd? Positive reinforcement can work purely unconsciously. The situation is still worse for complex subjects like vaccination or climate science where understanding truth requires following long complicated processes of reasoning. As Le Bon pointed out in 1895, Crowds are incapable of following logical chains of reasoning.
While the majority holds their belief because the others do, the minority needs a good reason. Going with the majority is not only easy and intuitive, but also one frequently faces social stigma or worse for taking the minority side. In cases where the majority side coincides with some financial reward, such as funding, one may also forfeit this reward in taking the minority position.
Before you even go to look at the arguments for and against, the more opprobium heaped on dissenters from the conventional wisdom, the more they must either be rationally correct, or directly on someone's payroll. In my experience, the direct payroll more often captures the majority side, leaving the minority to stand up for rationality.
“The inferior reasoning of crowds is based, just as is the reasoning of a high order, on the association of ideas, but between the ideas associated by crowds there are only apparent bonds of analogy or succession. The mode of reasoning of crowds resembles that of the Esquimaux who, knowing from experience that ice, a transparent body, melts in the mouth, concludes that glass, also a transparent body, should also melt in the mouth… The characteristics of the reasoning of crowds are the association of dissimilar things possessing a merely apparent connection between each other, and the immediate generalization of particular cases. It is arguments of this kind that are always presented to crowds by those who know how to manage them. They are the only arguments by which crowds are to be influenced. A chain of logical argumentation is totally incomprehensible to crowds…”
Technology, and the benefits of the marketplace have advanced humankind greatly at least in material terms. Medicine appears to be an excellent example. How can we have crowdthink?
But it seems likely from the vaccine diagrams here that vaccines are highly iatrogenic and from other evidence that fluoride in the water is iatrogenic and that chemotherapy is iatrogenic and etc. The evidence that vaccines contributed significantly to the decline of diseases, when examined, also looks shaky. See http://truthsift.com/search_view?topic=The-Evidence-Is-Weak-That-Vaccines-Have-Saved-More-Lives-than-They-Have-Cost--&id=520 , but unvaccinated and vaccinated diseases both declined, and have both made comebacks together in different times and locations such as 1990's former soviet union and 2015 UK, so common causes seem likely. Nutrition and Sanitation come to mind. Not only that, but surveys by the BMJ and the Cochrane and the Office of Technology, US Congress, show that less than 40% of medical practice is backed by science.
But then this suggests it is quite plausible we would be even much healthier if, for example, vaccines had never been invented. This is offered as an example to prove that the fact of Progress does not imply crowd sense.
This is evidently true even of credentialed experts. Few Doctors have ever read the scientific literature pertinent to vaccines, for example, so they are as subject to group think and interest group capture as anyone else. In the words of Le Bon, they are a "Caste".
“The medical profession is being bought by the pharmaceutical industry, not only in terms of the practice of medicine, but also in terms of teaching and research. The academic institutions of this country are allowing themselves to be the paid agents of the pharmaceutical industry. I think it’s disgraceful.” – Arnold Seymour Relman (1923-2014), Harvard Professor of Medicine and Former Editor-in-Chief of the New England Medical Journal http://www.commercialalert.org/relmanangell.pdfhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12561803
Only at most 40% of medical practice is supported by science according to all the surveys of which I'm aware cf the following:
Why do you then accept kgm^2/s^2 is massless when it has kg????
Massless is not possible. Matter does not convert into massless energy. Matter with existence in time, volume, tensile strength, the ability to produce gravitational and electromagnetic forces and mass moving per second along a distance is what enrgy is.
I expect there are lots of things we all agree on, without even thinking about the subject, because its so non-contentious. But that doesn't make the claim that there has been a lot of progress inconsistent with the claim the majority are often wrong. If you view the body of The topic statement, you will see it explicitly discusses the case when there is contention.
That the majority is often wrong should be established by a careful examination of a number of cases, and TruthSift is providing that. The vaccine graphs are a good example.
However, I've just seen something that blew my mind, so I'm posting it here as an independent proof, hoping somebody out there will debunk this one. The most entertaining conspiracy theorist out there is Miles W. Mathis, who has written up alternative interpretations of a large number of historical events, and also done some alternative science. If there was one claim of Mathis you were going to single out as particularly bizarre, it might have been his claim that pi = 4 for circular motion. I never even bothered to read his papers on it, its so bizarre (the usual way popular delusions are maintained is people refusing to look at the contradictory evidence raised by debunkers.) However, his associate has now posted a Youtube video of a simple table top experiment that seems to demonstrate conclusively he is right. 2 balls are prepared rolling at the same speed down tubes. One tube is bent into a circle. In the time the ball goes around the circle, the other ball is seen to go a distance 4D, not 3.1415D. Its very elegant, and quite contradictory to what I was taught in physics class.
The news is mostly fake. The climate data is fake. Vaccines are a fraud. Economics is largely fake, supporting certain interests. Most events where there are prominent conspiracy theories, one of them is right. (There are often many competing ones partly due to efforts to obscure the situation.)
Here's an example where the New York Times printed a fake story, Trump called them on it, they then doubled down claiming they had a tape supporting their account, the media double down supporting them, but the tape does not support their account. You can hear it for yourself at this link: http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/28/media-double-down-after-new-york-times-gets-busted-peddling-fake-news/?fbclid=IwAR11tWkucCWKcEWsIfpsVJOBf93gg_Pz0l3u7uvs25Mt6TKybXXsIEacu-A#.Wwwds_s3qPt.facebook
The news has been fake for a long time. Here is Thomas Jefferson talking about the problem: https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FDmHO-MpWsAAXhZ-.jpg%3Alarge%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR0Uwd6dqaRB_bB3094YIFJYpjg4Sm8HmQdmzQ4iRpiBab7hEv4dfslKpxc&h=AT2j0bgLekBRvjCIVRYMZPudifRsKCMW1NsfGCjSEaViWZxipHn_J2S1PsUKPrBQ0zakNKTpr57b_53DVeIdVQAC9j00BY2nfEh1_2cHnriGxVOQUgXBFNyPyvwEPJcHeIoBvFm0smuHhA
Here's a collection of times where the media in lockstep ran with obvious fake stories about trump when they were negative, and ignored facts favoring him. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-17/montage-mainstream-media-spreading-fake-smollett-maga-country-news
But while the media often prints fabricated stories, probably the more important way in which they lie is by ignoring important stories they don't like. Here's the discussion of the media ignoring the Obama administration shutting down an investigation into Hezbollah money laundering. https://nypost.com/2017/12/21/a-deafening-media-silence-on-the-obama-hezbollah-scandal/?fbclid=IwAR33WWTsdDk0ndbMQgFh8mFlowxJLF9oZTWZIDrtr0oKymsejNU6HkndmIY
One of the stories listed there in that last link was the Las Vegas shooting. But the story got considerably worse when in 2018 the Nevada Supreme Court forced the police to publish the 911 calls and the officers cameras video and it became completely clear the authorities were lying about what transpired, and nobody in the media covered it at all With the exception of Laura Loomer who was shortly thereafter banned for life by twitter. https://www.lauraloomer.us/blog/exclusive-new-vegas-shooting-sergeant-statement-challenges-lvmpd-single-shooter-narrative?fbclid=IwAR30DKmKPUMKcGmvhXspgaFnIJy_z60R1c2jcVztcD-OLTFT9EjOg_NnmBk
My personal favorite was the complete media whitewash of the senior CDC scientist whistleblower who testified that he and fellow CDC researchers found data showing a huge increase in autism among black children who had MMR before three years old and the CDC's response was to cover it up. He testified that they called a meeting to shred the data, and he kept the data, and he supplied it to the Congress. He had emails between him and the head of CDC confirming his testimony. The media completely whitewashed it. The media gets a huge fraction of their advertising revenue from big Pharma and apparently has no interest in crossing them.
it's obvious by now that there is a near unanimous action by many major corporations including tech companies such as Facebook, twitter, Google, PayPal, etc. to shut down alternative viewpoints to that of the left. Here for example is Twitter suspending Alex Jones for past violations three days after testifying to Congress that he had no past violations of their terms of service. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-07/twitter-exposes-its-politically-motivated-censorship-policy-banning-alex-jones-0?fbclid=IwAR3LczwDzIHFL8mLaZvqmnsOtRrzto-K3aADvAFEFqYiU_AO-_ycBaKp144
Conservatives or people opposed to the deep state often report their followers start vanishing overnight or people can't reach them or the views on their videos strangely go down. Here is Sharyl Attkinson remarketing that her video about a court date to sue the deep state for hacking her computer dropped from 20,000 views to 2000 views in a day: https://twitter.com/SharylAttkisson/status/1073769768883232769 ;;;;;;;
Part of the reason for this may be, as is shown by leaked documents, that Soros hired media matters to lobby for such a collusive restraint on free speech. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-26/soros-role-social-media-censorship-exposed-leaked-document?fbclid=IwAR3D5fWTS7Fm11YihHfpEPfr9UIRjeJDW029i2wYmUBvvM8sIs_JETx6654
They aren't doing this because they think rational argument is on their side, And it is costing them lots of money since they are losing much of their audience and many of their free content providers and in PayPal's case for example simple fees from popular websites.https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-26/soros-role-social-media-censorship-exposed-leaked-document?fbclid=IwAR3D5fWTS7Fm11YihHfpEPfr9UIRjeJDW029i2wYmUBvvM8sIs_JETx6654
Here's internal documents from Facebook published by the New York Times showing how political bias is affecting censorship by the company. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-29/facebook-engineers-stunning-admission-we-tear-down-posters-welcoming-trump?fbclid=IwAR2eU4K4BFtmstxqDrSZu9wDq18JREFIEjg0FG7YVBkb77MGl-GguVLm4C8
Here is Facebook purging hundreds of Conservative accounts with millions of followers. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-11/facebook-purges-over-800-accounts-millions-followers-including-conservative-meme?fbclid=IwAR2uRog0ep9QE2eeu71BEfi20lQfy6QaWxVNcLNqNzL96cp2BShrJoXidyQ
Here is Google telling you that the top five "American inventors" and 10 of the top 12 are black. The Wright brothers don't make their top 50 list. https://www.unz.com/isteve/great-moments-in-google-american-inventors/?fbclid=IwAR07hBbsYZ-7zqYGNhSae8J_-wKsaztbsQo0B3820Kxqr7ER2iKd_g4PsM8
Here's evidence that the official line on the Skripal case in which the British government accused Russia of using neurotoxins to poison a couple within Britain is fictional. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-05/russias-alleged-skripal-assassins-caught-breaking-laws-physics?fbclid=IwAR1WyvgHFFwBegGODq70c1AU9SVcVzvldgjtl3KuwrVy6obxbWvhsr7iyac
The claims about Magnitsky are lies. He wasn't a whistleblower, and he wasn't beaten to death in jail. ( In addition a documentary telling what actually happened was banned in the US and Europe. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-06/martin-armstrong-why-has-magnitsky-film-been-banned-usa-europe?fbclid=IwAR0JmaC9_p1XGBr471LrvAT4VZNCkC4Ep-Ao6_IYibGLU4b7bVKKz-p-Elk )
Russia didn't steal Crimea. The US promoted a fascist coup against the democratically elected government in the Ukraine and Crimea refused to go along. One result: the newly installed US government promptly quadrupled the national debt and cut the GDP by 40%.
Here is Putin saying he knows very well who wants to rule the world and it's not Russia. Russia spends $47 billion a year on defense compared to the US spending $700 billion a year. Russia's population is 1/4 that of Europe and less than half that of the US. https://www.rt.com/news/447063-putin-russia-us-rule-world/
It's also clear that MH – 17 was shot down by the Ukrainians not the Russians as is detailed with extensive evidence and links here: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-01/mh17-turnabout-ukraines-guilt-now-proven
The placebo effect is a sham. At best it occurs only for self-reported symptoms like pain and then only when there is a continuous gradation like one through 10. The original paper on which it is based, which has been cited thousands of times, was based on a review of 15 other studies, and misrepresented them. Sure some patients got better given a placebo, but some got worse and it ignored this. Patients often get better on their own without a placebo, except sometimes they get worse. It was either a fraud, or cognitive bias. Doctors like the idea of the placebo effect because it gives them license to do randomized control trials without worrying about ethical issues involving the patient's given placebos and thus not treated. They also like it because they have treated patients with placebos for hundreds of years, when they didn't have anything useful to give the patient so the patient would be upset that the doctor charged the money without doing anything. This is all discussed clearly here: https://medium.com/the-mission/the-placebo-effect-is-a-lie-61a26df35aae
The scientific literature on vaccines says pretty much the opposite of what the media and government agencies say it says. This is an interesting case because it is so verifiable: all you have to do is read the scientific literature or looked at the relevant truthsift diagrams. See the following diagrams for verification:
Incidentally while a lot of the fake vaccine boosting you see may be simply delusional, much of it is based on corrupt practices as documented here: https://www.infowars.com/report-gov-pronouncements-of-vaccine-safety-based-on-corrupt-practices/?fbclid=IwAR3K_-xt8MrcdKLrnmWXPBJCcciluuj5ajnnoXWxbWO8I0w7J_AgxpNB4Bg
NOAA is revising historical temperatures downward and modern temperatures upward to make it seem like there is warming. https://truthsift.com/search_view?topic=&id=502&nid1=5211&nid2=6756&fs=0
they also put their temperature stations and ridiculous spots which nobody sensible would think would give an accurate reading of the temperature. https://truthsift.com/search_view?topic=&id=502&nid1=5211&nid2=6464&fs=0
and Italy (see attached photo of temperature station enrollment report where it is not only surrounded by tarmac but regularly jet washed).
Hundred years ago Antarctic explorers were disembarking from their ice breakers: hundreds of miles further south than modern icebreakers can reach today. The first verified Overland trip to the North Pole is not till 1968 because many dozens of previous expeditions dog sleds had to turn back after hitting open water. These historical facts seem harder to fake than NOAAs temperature record.
Tony Heller gives a 50 minute talk where he walks through historical temperature data including photographs of newspaper articles as well as scientific publications and the official data and shows beyond reasonable doubt that they are fudging it by increasing current temperatures and decreasing historical temperatures. The US was much warmer in the 1930s and now they have erased that. Also explains that some of how they are doing it is explicitly making updated for temperature stations based on nearby stations in urban heat islands that are warmer. https://t.co/cwITSOz31H
In World War II South Sea Islanders watching planes land and disgorge cargo wanted to have planes come and disgorge cargo for them. As a form of sympathetic magic, they built replicas of landing strips which were detailed and complete down to wooden replicas of radios in the control shack. This is the cargo cult. According to Feynman, cargo cults science is similarly a detailed replica of science, including degrees and publications and prestigious faculty positions, that is missing the key ingredient so that it is all wrong. The key ingredient is the scientific integrity to prominently discuss and rebut the arguments against your position instead of simply ignoring them as is often done.
Truthsift is designed to prevent cargo cults science by not considering any thing tentatively established if there is an argument against it that has not yet been rebutted.
21 out of 23 Harvard graduates, alumni, and faculty confidently gave the wrong answer when asked why winter is colder than summer in spite of the fact that this is covered in every grade school education. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=TrXaQu_qGeo
Only about half of the most famous experiments in psychology can be replicated. https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/11/psychologys-replication-crisis-real/576223/?utm_term=2018-11-19T20%3A27%3A34&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_source=facebook&utm_content=edit-promo&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR1FMKYGEo-TyO9_sIi6-s3_0m1ro7Vf5sXXmqsx_frgz6IHeyaxzL_JqPE
Much of the Internet is fake. The metrics measuring traffic are largely fake. Many of the users/followers are actually Chinese click farms. the businesses are fake sometimes. The content is fake sometimes. http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/12/how-much-of-the-internet-is-fake.html
Ex –Reddit CEO gives further confirmation the metrics are fake. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-27/everything-fake-ex-reddit-ceo-confirms-internet-traffic-metrics-are-bullshit
this is being presented now to a grand jury by the federal attorney for the Southern District of New York.
PS – it doesn't seem likely to be a coincidence that Neo's passport in the 1999 movie "the matrix" having expiration date 9/11/01 was a coincidence given that the movie is about how everybody perceives a carefully manipulated delusion which is exactly what this topic is arguing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW3ffyFtDDI
The media keeps on making up bizarre allegations about Russiagate that then are debunked and mostly retracted. Here is a list of 57: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-20/definitive-list-usuk-media-russiagate-fake-stories
Politically correct assertions are not factually correct or we would simply describe them as "correct". The whole point of the statement being considered "politically correct" is that by agreeing with it you join the coalition that is politically correct. This wouldn't signal your adherence to the authority of the group if it was simply correct because then everybody would do it. If it's blatantly and obviously factually false on the other hand and you say it is true in the plain contradiction of what can be seen, then your motive obviously is to signal that you are part of the group. Coalition building is much more important in the evolutionary psychology, as a force for passing on your genes, then simply being factually correct. https://www.edge.org/conversation/john_tooby-coalitional-instincts
Many if not most beliefs widely held by the public are the result of deliberate propaganda campaigns. These propaganda campaigns are not motivated by spreading the truth but generally by somebody's financial interest.
Don't take my word for it. Read Propaganda by Edward Bernays https://www.amazon.com/Propaganda-Edward-Bernays-ebook/dp/B0097D76MG
Bernays is called the father of Madison Avenue and credited with inventing "making the world safe for democracy" in the propaganda campaign for World War I (they are still making the world safe for democracy hundred years later), inventing the diamond engagement ring, bacon and eggs, fluoridated water (his clients what to avoid liability for fluoride runoff so he convinced everybody fluoride was beneficial), The panel of doctors, and increasing cigarette sales 40% in one year by parading a few models up and down seventh Avenue smoking "torches of freedom" and convincing women to take up smoking, and many other things. He was also credited as a major inspiration by Goebbels. Goebbels is considered to have been extremely effective at convincing Germany to follow Hitler. Both of them were very open about how effective their propaganda was.
Fake white hate crimes against Blacks, POC, gays, and Jews have become fairly common. Most recent as I write appear to be Jesse Smollet and the Covington MAGA kid. Fake rape accusations like the Rolling Stone rape hoax and mattress girl as well. once police get involved these things are usually debunked fairly rapidly but a lot of people are confused for a while and many of them are so disappointed that it was a hoax that they seem reluctant to accept it even when strong proof is provided. Here is a survey of some: https://www.takimag.com/article/fake-noose/
There are so few actual hate crimes by whites that the New York Times in its desperation for the great White defendant has mentioned Emmett Till roughly 6 dozen times a year lately. Emmett till was murdered in 1955.
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When the ball makes the turn onto the circular section, its rotational axis has to change from horizontal to something nearer vertical. It has been suggested that this process causes skidding, and thus slowing of the ball. To rule this out, it is essential that they measure the speed of the ball on a straightaway after it makes the turn.
They have agreed to do so (see comments on Youtube vid), but we haven't seen the results yet.